Teflpedia talk:Wikigogy migration

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Lesson[edit]

1. Would TEFLPedia like to have some EFL lessons imported from Wikigogy?

Examples (we have these 5 lessons by César Eduardo Carrillo Ortiz, an English teacher in Mexico, from 2007):
http://wikigogy.org/Grapevine
http://wikigogy.org/Name_chain
http://wikigogy.org/Make_a_word
http://wikigogy.org/My_cloud
http://wikigogy.org/My_cloud_2
--Roger 04:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

2. Would lessons be imported into TEFLPedia's main name space or perhaps into a Lesson: namespace? --Roger 04:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Roger. I had a problem with the automatic transfer so I set up one here as a copy-paste without changing any formatting. Lesson:Grapevine. I've put the "editlesson" template on it:
This is a free lesson which has been donated to Teflpedia by a teacher. You are welcome to download and use all or part of it in class. If you feel that parts of the lesson could be improved please edit it, or raise your points on the discussion page.


I would suggest that the creation of a special "editlesson" template which credits Wikigogy and which links to the Wikigogy page here. I suggest this as linking back to the original Wikigogy page might result in a red link if the page eventually disappeared. In other words this:
This is a free lesson which has been donated to Teflpedia from Wikigogy. You are welcome to download and use all or part of it in class. If you feel that parts of the lesson could be improved please edit it, or raise your points on the discussion page.


Thoughts?--Bob M 08:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed the template anyway.--Bob M 08:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Process discussion[edit]

As far as I can the the process would be as follows: (Italic actions take place at Wikigogy)

  1. Identify the Wikigogy article to be moved.
  2. Use the Wikigogy export Box.
  3. Save the file to your PC.
  4. Use the TP Import box at TP to import from your PC.
  5. Add the {{Wikigogy}} banner to give credit at TP.
  6. Add the [[category:lessons transferred from Wikigogy]] cat at TP.
    Let's put this category into Template:Wikigogy instead, once. It thus is magically on each page that uses that template.--Roger 19:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC))
OK.--Bob M 11:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
  1. Transfer to Freestuff: namespace at TP.
    Let's change "Freestuff:" namespace to "Lesson:". --Roger 19:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC))
OK.--Bob M 11:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
  1. Blank the old page at WG and insert {{migrated|put URL to new page here}} at WG.
  2. Add the [[category:Migrated]] cat at Wikigogy.
  3. Review and tidy up at TP as appropriate.

Did I miss anything?--Bob M 12:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

OK - I have a few issues.
  1. Do we want to move the history?
    Maybe, if it makes maintaining attribution easier. Otherwise no. --Roger 20:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Upon reflection I think we should do this. It's no extra work and it helps with attribution.--Bob M 11:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
  1. Can we move talk pages automatically?
    I don't know. Maybe only move a talk page that looks especially useful. Most are not. --Roger 20:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
  2. Is there a way to drop them automatically into the correct namespace?
  3. I'm not sure how the "keyword" functions in the lessons.
    Okay to delete the Keyword stuff. That was my attempt at categorzing stuff.--Roger 20:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
  4. Probably a silly question but what do the numbers: ll_1 ll_2 ll_3 ll_4 ll_5 ll_6 ll_7 ll_8 ll_9 represent on the lesson pages?
    "ll" stands for "language level". Okay to remove that.--Roger 20:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
  5. Are we giving sufficient attribution?--Bob M 18:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Process[edit]

To migrate a page from Wikigogy to TEFLPedia:

  1. Identify the Wikigogy article to be moved by adding {{TP}} at top of it (to be changed to {{migrated|put URL to new page here}} after these steps have all been done)
  2. Use the Wikigogy export Box and uncheck [ ] "Include only the current version, not the full history" above Export button before clicking it. We want full history for attribution purposes.
  3. Save the file to your PC.
  4. Use the TP Import box at TP to import from your PC.
  5. Add the {{Wikigogy}} banner to give credit at TP and auto-apply the Wikigogy cat at TP.
  6. Move page to Lesson: namespace at TP by clicking Move tab and adding "Lesson:" to beginning of page name.
  7. Blank the old page at WG and insert {{migrated|put URL to new page here}} at WG.
  8. Review and tidy up at TP as appropriate. (Remove "keyword" Remove ll_1 ll_2 ll_)

Are we good to go?--Bob M 21:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes --Roger 01:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Situation[edit]

I'm not going to be able to do much on this project for the rest of this week as I have an urgent "real life" task. But if anybody else wants to play please don't let my absence stop you.--Bob M 21:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

OK. Let's go.[edit]

AS it looks like moving items one by one will be slow it has been suggested that we should ID pages to move and then use a wikibot to move them en-masse. (Or via cat)

In that case the outstanding actions are:

  • ID the pages that we want to move to TP.
  • Look into wikibot to move them.

Additionally[edit]

  • Review high inters pages at WG to move early.--Bob M 13:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)