User talk:Toast

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Hi Toast[edit]

Nice to see you drop in.--Bob M 21:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I drop in every so often. Just to see how you're goin' on. Toast 21:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Toast, so do I, in case I can help. Which means, "not much", but still, I retain an affection for this wiki. Human 08:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your continued interest in the help files.--Bob M 19:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, I can't do anything on the actual mainspace so I might as well do what I can there. If I'm overstepping anywhere, don't be shy about telling me. Toast 19:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll try not to be shy, and as you know I usually express my opinions.  :-) But I know that you've got quite a bit of experience at technical writing so please go for it. --Bob M 19:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, nice boxes - I like it.--Bob M 16:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
<curtsey>Thank you, sir. </curtsey> Toast 16:55, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

A new record[edit]

First time in my life I've had three consecutive edit conflicts on Telfpedia.--Bob M 10:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Heh! I had 2. Must be becoming popular! Toast 10:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Well you'll get no more from me for a while. I'm off out in a minute. :-) --Bob M 10:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
'Twas only you editing that page that drew me to it

[1] [2]Toast 10:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC) Toast 10:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The first link didn't work, but the second has a lot of sound advice.--Bob M 13:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
First one works now - I'd put a "." in for some reason. It's the English page of that guy's site. Toast 13:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Page format[edit]

Occasionally, while editing, I find that the tabs at the top re-format themselves into smaller versions separated slightly from the page. Is this a new "feature" which you have introduced? :-) --Bob M 08:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

OMIgOD NO! I have done NOTHING to interfere with CSS or Java except the wikitable & infobox CSS. I haven't the knowhow or cheek to do any such thing. I haven't noticed it. I'm running UBUNTU & ffx 3.0.14. Toast 09:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Must be something weird my end then.--Bob M 12:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I've seen that before. The only time I can remember that a reason was found was when it turned out to be a userbox that had been indented with colons. Phantom Hoover 17:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll need to make a note of the next page I see it on.--Bob M 18:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, userboxes are not "complete", they need the code in useboxtop and userboxbottom to "seal them off" from the page. Human 05:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Going to change profession?[edit]

After reading all this stuff about TEFL are you going to join the profession, or is a bit too late in the game for such lifestyle changes?--Bob M 12:18, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Methinks Toast is utterly dedicated to Talking English as a First Language. So, uh, yeah, maybe ;) I think she just enjoys helping you with your wiki. Human 05:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I seem to have omitted the <joke> </joke> in my post above. :-) --Bob M 07:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


Something which I've always wondered[edit]

You just made the edit ===apostrophe = ' or ’===. (and nowiki won't even let me show the bit I'm asking a question about but you can see it in "edit".) This is probably a silly question, but what is the advantage of using wiki language like this? I've seen other people do it as well, but I've never understood the reason. Thank you. Puzzled from Spain. (AKA)--Bob M 12:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I noticed the difference in the section; the italicised bits looked like while the rest looked: ' . Just showing that they're the same ( - and that it's the right single quote not the left ditto that's used.) Undo if you want, I'm not fixated on it (just bored & avoiding doing what I should be doing). :-) Toast 12:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
OK that's fine. But it's just something that I'm trying to understand. On RW there is one user who changes all the usages of "-" to something in wiki, and I've never understood why.--Bob M 12:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
(It's not wiki - it's HTML) He changes - to — or – I think. It's in the Wikipedia MOS. For RW I don't care - it's all rather "take us as you find us" but I thought it worthy of demonstrating on a serious site like Teflpedia. Toast 13:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, that's most interesting. I did not know that "em" and "en" dashes existed. Thanks.--Bob M 13:13, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Many years ago I was charged with sourcing my then employer's printing. I seem to remember that in hard type faces there were about six different forms of "dash". Most punctuation marks were similar. Nowadays we're restricted to the keyboard that comes with the computer. :-) Toast 13:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

New userpage[edit]

Interesting. It's written more for linguists than teachers though. I have to confess that I'll need to look up things like "yod dropping" and "the happy tensing".  :-) --Bob M 08:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I saw PH waffling on about IPA on RW & thought I'd take a look. It's something I know almost nothing about & I was (mildly) interested. It's from here; not from one of the articles on IPA, of which there are numerous. . Toast 09:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
This might also be of interest. ("The happy tensing": 1953 on top of Everest? Nods.gif) Toast 10:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Certainly interesting, though a bit advanced for most foreign language students. If I can help them to not pronounce the "l" in words like "would, make a shot at the final consonant cluster in words like "asks", avoid producing "r" at every opportunity and consistently pronounce the third person "s" - then I feel that I'm the happy Tensing myself.--Bob M 11:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

To avoid puns it should be spelled "happY tensing". Anyway, that's better that DRESS raising [3]. Ghoti (talk) 12:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Toast.[edit]

Nice to see you around.--Bob M 10:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

MMmmm. Sorry, just bored. Didn't remember doing all that stuff last year. 14:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
If you're looking for something to do - do you fancy setting up a disambiguation page/template or whatever it should be? I tried to do something once but it wouldn't work.--Bob M 17:37, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Looking! 17:52, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
Fantastic! I want to split the article Translation. One meaning being for the student activity in class and the other being for the potential of English teachers branching into that field. Any chance you could use that subject to demonstrate/test it?--Bob M 19:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Looking! 19:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
I'm not sure what you mean, I'm afraid. You make two articles & I'll do the disambig page. 19:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
That's the thing really. How do you create two articles with the same name? And what's the name of the disambiguation page? Or am I being really stupid and missing something obvious?--Bob M 19:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Translation in class; Translation as a career; Translation (the disambig) 20:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
Ah. You know the moment I sent that I thought that must be the answer.--Bob M 20:34, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
I've just moved the translation article. Quite a few things linked to it but I assumed they would link to the disambiguation page instead. Now I note that the disambiguation page says that we shouldn't link to it. What's the problem with linking to a disambiguation page?--Bob M 20:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
No actual problem but it means users need to click twice (and wait for page loading etc) whereas a direct link to the page is - a direct link to the page (!) Toast 20:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)}~ Toast
I'll sort it. You just write the articles. Nods.gif 20:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
OK that works fine.  :-) Don't know if you want to make it prettier though. Flowers or birds or something? I know! How about a very bright red with a curved line somewhere? Famously debated at a place close to our hearts. --Bob M 21:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
OK; on it. 21:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
And I'm afraid that I must leave you with it. I'm being called away by my better half to do other things. I've tried to claim that I'm watching the Eurovision voting but I'm not being believed. Catch you tomorrow.--Bob M 21:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Ha! Being deprived of auditory pollution has its benefits: Didn't even know the dreaded thing was on! See ya! 21:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast

Undent
How's that? 22:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Toast

That's most artistic. Thanks again.--Bob M 06:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
UK last again I see. Any word on when you may be able to suffer such things again?--Bob M 06:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
No: up to 6 months. Particularly annoying as t'other ½'s found this and spends time chortling - bugger! 15:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC) Toast
I remember The Goon Show. You may rise above it by pointing out that it was never really that funny. More seriously, it must be a real pain not being able to hear. I'm sure that I can't really imagine it. I really hope it gets better soon.--Bob M 16:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Greetings[edit]

Greetings Toast - and thanks for dropping by again. It was getting kinda lonely here with just Bob M and Gooniepunk to argue at. And thanks for outdenting the above - I was starting to go cross-eyed... Cheers! --Technopat 23:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Bored with BlightyNet? How can WdeW someone who created Apple pie 'n' Stilton cheese be bored with BlightyNet? There's plenty more to do along those lines... Shall be watching your smoke.--Technopat 08:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Help![edit]

We are under an assault by spammers! Gooniepunk2005 02:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)