Talk:Language

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I wonder if the contents of the new page individual language might fit now and into the future into the page language? I think it would. Wikipedia seems to manage it well. —Roger (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia handles this quite badly, IMHO. There is a semantic difference between the countable and uncountable senses here, and I think it's an important one. If we think analogously, there's a similar difference between wikipedia:life and wikipedia:biological species, but those two aren't conflated. There's also a difference in the categorisation scheme, category:Languages is a subset of category:Language. --Duncan (talk) 03:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Actually looking more closely, Wikipedia has wikipedia:variety (linguistics) as being an umbrella term for "individual language" and "dialect". The things is though that articles don't say e.g. "English is a variety" (thereby pointing to the right page) but do say "English is a language" (and point to the uncountable sense of language). Linguists of course are interested in the differences, whereas our context is strongly focused on English linguistics largely to the exclusion of other points. So I think we too need an article on variety (linguistics) but as an umbrella term.