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And I again[edit]

All looks good so far.--Bob M 03:21, 4 February 2012 (CST)

Looks like those changes stopped the spammers dead. At least for now. Good work!--Bob M 10:25, 9 February 2012 (CST)

Normalizer link[edit]

OK. I'll bite. What's one of these do then?--Bob M 15:16, 10 February 2012 (CST)

You have a very important email! :-) Roger 00:36, 11 February 2012 (CST)

Greetings again.[edit]

Greetings Roger. As you can see, I've been pottering around, tweaking away like billy-ho... If you've got a moment, maybe you could pop in at the new Help:Archiving your User talk page I've just created and check for any deliberate mistakes/bloopers that I may have left behind. Cheers! --Technopat 19:15, 17 February 2012 (CST)

Request[edit]

While you're at it, ¿any chance of creating an Template:Archive box for us to use on our User talk pages? I know that there's not yet much call for it, but one likes to look ahead, even if we're talking archives, here. Cheers! --Technopat 19:21, 17 February 2012 (CST)

A template may be over engineering. I may play with it and see. --Roger 14:56, 19 February 2012 (CST)
Template:Archive is a start. --Roger 16:25, 19 February 2012 (CST)
I'm deleting my attempt at Template:Archive. Was not practical as it didn't scale beyond one archive page. An archive template should be elegantly simple, and it wasn't. --Roger (talk) 18:26, 13 February 2013 (CST)

Bug?[edit]

Greetings Roger. Just left a query re. uncategorized pages over at the Teflpedia:Teachers' room, but am bringing this one here 'cos it's slightly different: while that particular page is "formally" listed under Special:UncategorizedPages, I see that it actually has a category: Love me. Is there a bug in there somewhere? Regs., --Technopat 05:44, 18 February 2012 (CST)

Teflpedia: Teachers' room and Teachers' room are two separate pages. So no bug. --Roger 14:37, 19 February 2012 (CST)

e-mail[edit]

Roger - just sent you an e-mail. Cheers! --Technopat 03:34, 20 February 2012 (CST)

Technically speaking you know that is patently sneaky... 8-) Roger 14:00, 20 February 2012 (CST)

Reply[edit]

Greetings Roger. Thanks for update. Yeah, I changed to Vector some time ago. But have just had a butcher's at Teflpedia:Newcomer's guide and it looks weird: something ain't working... or are you still messing about there? Basically, what's wrong is when the tab is inside the parenthesis, it sort of "eats" the edges of said p. I've checked to see if it disappears by augmenting or reducing, but it makes no difference. I've just done a botch-job leaving a space 'tween tab and p, which seems to work (Teflpedia:Newcomer's guide#What are Article Pages and Discussion (Talk) Pages?), but maybe you have a more technological solution. :) Cheers! --Technopat 06:50, 1 October 2012 (CDT)

Just outta curiosity have checked with both Safari & Firefox. They both give the same appearance. Regs., --Technopat 07:01, 1 October 2012 (CDT)
Okay by me; that's why that long key at front of keyboard is so big. The button and tab templates do overlap stuff a little if they get too close but I hadn't noticed it be a problem. There may be a way to suppress that with CSS, er, "clear: all;" or something. Not sure. Perhaps the space key is easier. No need for the long knives there I think. BTY, I added "white-space: nowrap;" to button, tab and boxword's CSS. So happily no further need for " ", even though I felt rather cleaver using "& " to get " " into the docs. I have now tested tab, button and boxword on Windows 7: Chrome, IE, Firefox and Linux: Firefox. My software versions are all fairly recent. If you have older software versions things may respond differently. I don't suppose anyone reads our wiki help pages though. I only looked in there to see what all the racket was about. --Roger 14:56, 1 October 2012 (CDT)

External links disclaimer[edit]

Hi Roger. Just like your opinion on something. You may have seen some disclaimer banners appearing on our pages recently. I am not totally convinced that they are necessary but it would be nice to get another opinion. Perhaps you could make a comment here? Cheers.--Bob M 05:31, 8 October 2012 (CDT)

odd[edit]

Hi Roger. Something strange seems to have happened. Could you have a look at the recent edit history of Angleterre? It shows me - apparently - reversing an edit of Technopat's. But I'm certain that I haven't touched the thing in the last few days. Any thoughts?--Bob M 07:58, 10 October 2012 (CDT)

Thanks for your mail on this.--Bob M 13:21, 12 October 2012 (CDT)

Biting the bullet...[edit]

Greetings Roger. Thanks for note. Regarding the article you modified you made, it looks great. Regarding feeling bad about overhauling it, hey, this is a wiki... and if I ain't prepared to have my creations edited mercilessly, there's no point submitting 'em. Them's the rules o' the game, and if someone don't like it, s/he can go an' play a different ball game. Or simply revert your edits... :) I'll make a study of your formatting to see how to incorporate it into new/existing articles. Have you added anything about it it the "How to edit section"? Cheers! --Technopat 04:02, 12 October 2012 (CDT)

Twks on contractions[edit]

Greetings Roger. Perfick! But I don't get the second part of your edit summary: "and separating the titles "Note 1" and "Note 2" from their automatically indented definitions with colon (:)" Cheers! --Technopat 13:16, 12 October 2012 (CDT)

See Help:Editing advanced#Definition_lists. --Roger 14:29, 12 October 2012 (CDT)

Wonky template[edit]

Greetings Roger. Next time you happen to drop by, and find yourself at a loose end, could you please check out Template:Reference needed. I tried to activate it some time back but got stuck. Cheers! --Technopat 19:12, 2 November 2012 (CDT)

Answered on his talk page. --Roger 20:37, 2 November 2012 (CDT)
Ta. --Technopat 03:49, 3 November 2012 (CDT)

Greetings and ... zorry![edit]

Yeah, saw your note and promptly forgot all about it 'cos I logged on with a purpose.

Let me see. Re. "Language stuff", don't see any reason for there to be 2 similar cats, so one of 'em should obviously go, but I actually quite like that "Language stuff" title as it takes away some of the formality so often associated with language, linguistics, etc. and the pretty dry titles of the other first level names. So that informal ring to it might make people like me check it out... and add to it of their plenty.

Re. "General stuff", I really do reckon that we need some sort of catch-all category for all those thangs that almost, but don't quite fit into neat & tidy categories directly related to teaching or to language... off the top o' me 'ead but I'm sure there's more out there:

Not sure if that answered all your questions, but if not, you know where to get back to me. Just remembered that you asked me to reply elsewhere but it's most def. beddy-byes for me, so I'm outta here. Cheers! --Technopat 19:53, 24 November 2012 (CST)

Plurals[edit]

Greetings Roger. Thanks for tip. Yeah, I know that's the theory, but as you can see from these examples: trolls, binomials and pundits, it doesn't always work. Or rather, you end up at the Search results page rather than being taken straight to the article. Which is fine if you were intentionally using the search function, but mildly irritating if you hit Go 'cos you're pretty sure there'll be an article here at teflpedia on that very subject. Hence the redirect, which I only do if I get a redlink on showing preview. It's true that most wiki-literate folk are more or less used to the idea of singular terms as default, but as I've pointed out elsewhere, we musn't fall into the error of taking for granted that all our readers are. In my experience, the two most common reasons for using the Move function over at WP are precisely 'cos people use plurals in titles of articles they've created and lowercase for surnames... as in John smith. Weird, but incredibly frequent. Whenever I remember, which ain't all that often, I try to create a new article in plural and then move it to singular precisely to avoid having to remember the redirect. Regs.,--Technopat 00:50, 3 December 2012 (CST)

The Go button is gone from the latest version of MediaWiki. We will upgrade to it before long. So perhaps we won't need those redirects. Note the s goes outside the link, not inside it. Eg [[pundit]]s gives pundits which links to "pundit". --Roger 11:48, 3 December 2012 (CST)
Update... sorry to insist on the usefulness of redirects, but things like this (a search for "Lesson plans") are time-consuming and misleading in that they give the erroneous impression that teflpedia don't have no article on that particular subject (or pundits, etc.), especially if, like I just did, you have the screen on "enlarged" mode, in which case that 7th entry, or in this case (search for "learning processes"), the 6th, is only visible by scrolling down. If your aversion to the little blighters is that they occupy too much useful server space, I will drop the issue, but if it's merely an aesthetic issue, maybe you could reconsider. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 09:19, 28 March 2013 (CDT)
PS: As you will have noticed from those redirects I've just done of authors known by their initials, given the differences in usage, a similar case occurs. i.e. without that redirect, anyone typing in (or copy-pasting from another source) the exact form of the corresponding article gets a no-hit or, at best, a near-miss rather than that highly sought-after, and in fact, easily attainable, bull's-eye. One does aim for perfection... :) --Technopat (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2013 (CDT)
On principle I quite like the idea of redirects.--Bob M (talk) 12:50, 28 March 2013 (CDT)

Giving feedback[edit]

Nice one! --Technopat (talk) 01:27, 10 April 2013 (CDT)

Aw Pat, for shame, you've flattered me to go even farther unto the brink! ;) Roger (talk) 15:25, 10 April 2013 (CDT)
Brink as in Brinkmanship ? I don't have the hard facts, but I'd imagine that that term has its origins in the time-honoured (actually from the late 1940s) Brit art of Gamesmanship, which its author later developed into one-upmanship. The notoriously inaccurate Wikipedia, however, claims that the term one-upmanship dates back to the early 1900s (providing as a ref what in all likelihood is a hoax... a quick google for it drew the expected blank...) while according to Merriam-Webster, it dates from 1952, precisely the year Potter published his famous sequel to Gamesmanship. In that former, foundational, work Potter also came up with Clothesmanship, Nice Chapmanship (he rejects use of the "hideous neologism 'nicemanship'"), Ruggership, Winmanship, Luncheonship (includes Drinkmanship and Guestmanship), Losemanship... --Technopat (talk) 12:26, 16 April 2013 (CDT)
In which Pat doth plunge headlong over the brink--I think "brink" means edge, which I find myself ever flapping my arms at. I think I'll tie a rope round my waist and tie the other end to yon tree. :) --Roger (talk) 12:47, 16 April 2013 (CDT)
Yellow ribbon? Ol' oak tree? :) --Technopat (talk) 12:56, 16 April 2013 (CDT)

Message...[edit]

... for you over at Talk:Methodology#Format, from:--Technopat (talk) 04:50, 16 April 2013 (CDT)

odd template[edit]

Hi Roger. Just made a comment at Talk:Approach, method and strategy and the template on that page did something odd. I wonder if you could look at it? Cheers.--Bob M (talk) 14:19, 17 April 2013 (CDT)

Yes, that template was borked. Both the DIV and the FONT tags lacked corresponding closing tags. I fixed it with {{box}}, which you might like to have a look at. It defines and thus can accepts some optional 'color' parameters. I gave the Wikivoyage-e template the 'color=gray' parameter to tone it down a bit. --Roger (talk) 15:26, 17 April 2013 (CDT)
Thanks - and very pretty! :-) --Bob M (talk) 07:09, 18 April 2013 (CDT)

Thanks for your warning[edit]

You are very thoughtful. Anyway the warning message was not cryptic to me, so I guessed what was happening. Thanks also for your welcome. Ghoti (talk) 21:12, 20 November 2013 (CST)

cool login screen.[edit]

Everything looks very nice and that's a cool login screen!--Bob M (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)